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to 7.7%. we might want to keep inind as we head f the fiscal cliff. according to recent pololl, only 4 in 10 americans expect the white house and congress to reach a deal before the first of the year, and ondthis does goes out,t, 5 53% of the american people are apparely prepared to blame republicans t president's job approval rating is over 50% congress' is under 20%. why y would the president back down? >> it is safe to say that the prident is n interested in a balanced agreement, he is not particularly intererted in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and he is not interested at all in cutting spending. >> the senate minority leader adds that what the president is interested in is getting as s much taayer money a as he can said that he can spend to his heart's contntent. wiwith hispproval ratings going up and congress' at historic lows, why would t president back down, charles? >> to some extent he is underestimating the dama he woduffer if we e go over the cliff. for suret will hurt republicans in congress, and that is why democrats in congressss are relishing going over theliff. but obama
don't owe taxes on the forgiven debt, on the other side of the fiscal cliff, you do. it expires on december 31st, unless congress acts. >> the average amount that homeowners are short in a short sale is $95,000. and if this tax break goes away, as part of the so-called fiscal cliff, those homeowners could be taxed on that $95,000 as additional income starting in 2013. >> how much homeowners will owe in taxes on that amount depends on the tax bracket they're in, but on average, it would be about 20 to $25,000. the banks have an extra incentive to sell short and absorb the loss. the nation's biggest lenders get a credit for short sales as a form of foreclosure relief. foreclosures also sell on average for $30,000 less than homes sold via short sale. so as we near the fiscal cliff, you can expect short sales even more as homeowners get hit with bank taxes and banks get stuck with foreclosed properties. if we go over the cliff, the taxpayer's base with a short sale may be steep enough to walk away instead. and that would push the fiscal cliff higher for 2013. i'm christine romans. >
left to make a deal before the country hits what's called the fiscal cliff. that's a combination of across the board tax increases for everyone, coupled with cuts in spending like defense, education, health care, and housing assistance. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin with the very latest. jessica? >> reporter: president obama has now personally turned down speaker boehner's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker
right up here on cnn. >>> congress faces a so-called fiscal cliff and only 24 days. and it is what house speaker john boehner did not say that is drawing attention tonight. when questioned by reporters yesterday, boehner would not comment on whether there is room for compromise on the president's demand for higher tax rates, on high income americans. boehner and the president spoke by phone this week, but in public comments, appear to have no -- made no progress. >>> same sex couples are finally getting their day in court. this time, the u.s. supreme court. justices have decided to hear two constitutional challenges to federal and state laws. one case involves the federal defense of marriage act, which denies federal benefits to same sex couples legally married in their own state. the other is a challenge to california's prop 8, which took away the right of same sex marriage that had been previously approved by state courts. >>> florida governor charlie crist completed his political transformation. crist was elected governor as a republican in 2006, then later ran for the senate as an in
'm gerri willis. tonight no progress on the fiscal cliff as democrats and republicans trde barbs over the issue. one group of americans is finding way through this regardless of congress and the president. small-business owners in this countryare preparing to hire. join me now, chieu.s. economist for i may just pull one side. heart of america group founder, and member of tobs creation alliance and actual job creators in this ountry who say teir voices not being heard in this fice took with debate. also with us from the weekly standard, steven hze. welcome. great to have you here. i want to start with the conversation in wwashington and what the speaker had to say about the status of the fiscal here is mr. boehner. >> this is in the progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscl cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do you say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i think they're actua
a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> "i know that the president certainly wants a deal. he didn't try to handicap it." and earlier this week, he told so called middle class americans on twitter keep pressure on congress, he's even ventured outside the beltway rallying supporters to do just that "i'm going to be asking all of you to make your voices heard." >> why isn't he calling speaker boehner over to a white house meeting? "speaker boehner and i speak frequently. and, you know, i (reporter: "so when? when will the two of you sit down in a room?") >> "you know, i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room." in part the white house was burned by the debt ceiling negotiations of 2011 when lots of meetings, failed to stave off a fiscal nightmare. but there's another strategy at play. some in the administration say they learned in the first term, the best wa
's ultimatum driving us to the fiscal cliff? chris and senior writer for the weekly standard, steven hayes the guests here tonight. we begin with the dictator trying to maintain command of the country using chemical weapons as a deterrent. fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the latest for us in this report. >> a regime helicopter captured in the skies in syria in a video unloads something, most likely, a defensive flair to detour antirebel runners, but that epitomizes the fear of which the serian people now live. rebel forces taking the flight to the assad regime inside the capital with a deadly explosion in the arab red crescent building outside the city. >> it's very clear the regime forces are being grounded down and that they are losing. >> in seeking to squash the uprising, he killed 40,000 people. president obama's top aids feel the fighting takes on a more gruesome character. >> we remain very concerned, very concern that as the opposition advances, in particular on damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> senior u.s. of
. congress hearing from all sides on the fiscal cliff and heading up a coalition of business and economic leaders in the fix the debt campaign, where do you sense the players are right now in terms of whether they'll go interest a small deal, band-aid approach or grand bargain. >> the good news is while it's a nail biter, that's for sure, we all wish we could solve some of these problems without going to the brink like we do in politics, i think they're going to get this resolved and be able to put in place a plan not just to avert the fiscal cliff, but importantly to really tackle the deficit and debt problems in this country. i am concerned that deal won't be big enough. is it going to be small or medium or big. we need a plan big enough to fix the deficit problems and make sure the debt is no longer growing faster than the economy. we're not going to be able to balance the budget in the near future because the fiscal hole is so big. you want to make sure the debt is not growing faster than the economy. that's going to take $4 trillion in savings. you need all parts on the table and con
with congress to work on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon they will meet with house speaker john boehner and governor jerry brown is not in that group. >>> tara is back, you know all about our commute, what is happening in pacifica. >>> well, to the northport tall bridge, they are able to stabilize that weak spot. right now we will take a live look headlights are flowing nicely as you make your way towards the mcarthur maze. up next, we have 880 up near the oakland coliseum, same story staff is flowing very nicely. it is dark up there but take my word for it, traffic is flowing nicely, 5:07 let's check with steve. >>> ukiah announced they can't hold a candle to what was there. heavier amounts will not be to the north. any rain on already saturated soil will need to be watched. one to two will cover it, i think this system will weaken considerably. it doesn't mean we will not get more rain. the pattern will change, there could be some morning drizzle in some of the higher elevations and rain in the north bay, you can see it there having returns near clover dale, winds near clover
head attachment. >>> well, we're going to talk about this person, the stalemate over the fiscal cliff, now the subject of a petition on the white house website. demands everyone in congress forfeit their paychecks and health care benefits until the deal is reached on the fiscal cliff. we'll be talking about whether -- we made a mistake earlier, if that person will make a difference for republicans not a representative. if nothing is worked out before the new year, it calls for a two-year, 15% pay cut for both the president and capitol hill lawmakers. so far 10,000 people have signed it. >>> t minus 24 days and counting until the nation could begin that dreaded slide down the fiscal cliff. we're going to get to that in just a moment. well, we're going to do that now. let's listen to house speaker john boehner, he had this to say. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill an
republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard above. -- how long can you afford politically to have those tax cuts? >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting -- of the revenues we are putting from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >>\[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt on the books. every man, woman and child owing the american government $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. as a result, our members understand that we've got to solve the problem, and we will. >> the house is going to leave today with two days le
to handle the fiscal cliff negotiations. only 36% trust the "r"s in congress. joining me is nbc chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," anything else you control around here? >> that's enough. >> and "the washington post's" chris cillizza. i think you've been reupped. you're all over the place. you're the greatest. the absolute best there is in this -- >> let's be careful talking about the president outside the beltway in virginia. >> this is why i want you and chris on. what is the president hoping to get done? what's his time frame? does he believe in the cliff or does he think it's a bungee jump? >> no, he truly believes in the cliff. he has been getting -- and he's getting economic warnings from his own team that say, don't believe the congressional budget office, which is kind of rosy about this, who says it would be a tough 2013 if we went over the cliff but things would get better. he is getting updates saying, no, no, no, we will go into recession. >> therefore, let's go to the therefore now, can he arrange a credible, reasonably progr
even if congress and the white house reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. >>> a developing story out of north korea. the country may set off a long range rocket as early as this monday. that's according to media reports in south korea. the rocket is reportedly being fueled, but heavy snowfall may have slowed down preparations. north korea wants to launch what it calls a peaceful satellite sometimes before november 22nd. the u.s. believes the rocket is a cover to test missile technology. >>> president obama is speaking out against ongoing unrest in egypt. he has called egyptian president mohamed morsi to express concern about recent protests that have resulted in numerous deaths and injuries, calling the violence unacceptable. president obama did welcome morsi's call for talks with opposition leaders. this comes after a violent week in cairo. on wednesday night, six were killed and nearly 700 injured in protest outside morsi's palace. >>> this morning d.c. mayor vincent gray will announce a new flood prevention for bloomingdale. this comes after flash floods swamped that neighborhood
. >>> time for a healthy serving of trail mix. congress before the big fiscal cliff fight. it's time for the house freshmen to choose their offices. on friday, the reps picked their office number from the congressional office lottery, where they were apparently encouraged to do some sort of superstitious dance to help pick the best number, and they did not disappoint. that's a cartwheel, that's a congressman's aide, another aide apparently played journey's "don't stop believing" on their phone before giving it a go. yeah, they are taking it seriously. >>> in just a couple hours from now, the kennedy center honors gala begins. including led zeppelin, david letterman and dustin hoffman. right now, the president out enjoying some afternoon golf with those guys. former president bill clinton, former dnc chair terry mccauliff and ron kerr. it's the president's third outing since winning reelection. only the second time ever, though, he has played golf with former president clinton. president obama has a full day today. >>> coming up, as another u.s. base comes under attack in afghanistan,
for the "fiscal cliff." the deadline for the president and congress to find a way to avoid tax increases and spending cuts is 25 days away. president obama made a special point to sit with a middle class family in virginia this afternoon. he was trying to offer an example of who would be hurt by the republican tax proposal. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives the sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> republicans are standing behind their counter-offer to chose tax loopholes and limit some deductions. they say the president needs to deliver a new plan that they can agree on and soon. it's also important to note that congress is scheduled to adjourn december 21st and the president is supposed to be headed to hawaii for vacation on december 17. >>> after doing some downsizing starbucks is back to brewing up some expansion plans and that includes another san francisco store. at market and sanchez. cbs 5 reporter mike sugerman tells us some small businesses in that area are trying to gri
the fiscal cliff, if we have reasonable resolution type of programs that the president has been proposing to support the economy in the short run, get us on a sustainable fiscal path in the long run, protect the middle class we're going to see progress in this economy. >> the risk the president wants us to take increasing tax rates will hit many small businesses that produce 60 to 70% of the new jobs in our country. that's the whole issue here. >> on the fiscal cliff front, no new deals or concessions made public, but "the new york times" reports the dynamic has changed. at the request of speaker boehner, senate leaders and nancy pelosi have been dismissed from the negotiating table. leaving just the speaker and the president to hammer this one out. today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to mem
of congress." >> susie: we turn tonight to other opinions on the fiscal cliff impasse. we talk with the chairman of the national governor's association, and we also hear from a leading advocate for responsible fiscal policy. we begin with governor jack markell, the democrat from delaware. he was one of six governors meeting with president obama today to talk about how the fiscal cliff impacts their states. i asked him what was his message to the president. >> our message was pretty straightforward. we believe that it is important that governors have a seat at the table as the president and leaders in coness are negotiating issues around the fiscal cliff. we think it is really important that they get something done because, obviously, if tax rates go up on middle-class americans come next month, it will be bad for those middle-class americans, it is will be bad for our states, and we're concerned about both the fiscal side and the economic growth side. >> susie: so talk to us a little bit about what kind of deal you would like to see. what were you proposing to the president? >>
unemployment checks right now. if the nation heads over that fiscal cliff, four out of 10 unemployed americans will have a tougher time getting by. at the height of the jobs crisis congress passed federally backed emergency unemployment programs so states wouldn't run out of money for jobless benefits. now why is this happening? these programs have passed on a temporary basis because lawmakers hoped the economy would be in better shape by now. it's all part of an effort to slash $503 billion from the federal budget deficit through tax increases and deep spending cuts. >> you can learn more any time at www.wusa9.com and on 9 news. this has been a 9 news fiscal cliff note. >>> right now the search for a sexual predator who hides behind a mask, prince william county police say that man tricked, then attacked a hotel clerk at an econo lodge in woodbridge. he called the clerk posing as a guest locked out of his room. the clerk headed to the room and in the stairwell that man with a mask pulled a knife on her, forced her into an empty room and sexually assaulted her. >>> maryland issued its first li
on with the fiscal cliff right? are we going to balance our budget by lessoning lessening the support to those with disability or focus on those at the top 1%. this trend is ongoing and i hope it doesn't continue. the bipartisan tradition around disability is longstanding, and i think it's mourn. it's one of those few issues that traditionally both republicans and democrats can agree on, and i hope we can get back to that point. a lot of work need to be done in the republican party for us to get there. >> eliot: your point is so well taken. there should be no disagreement about extending rights to those with disabilities. this is not a partisan issue. it has not been historically a partisan issue. whom will you call? where will you begin when you go and reach out to the republican party and say guys, go back to your roots. you just lost an election because of the narrowness of your vision. expand it. who will you talk to? >> you know what? i will talk to everyone and anyone who will listen. we work he very closely with former senator dole, and i couldn't believe as he was sitting there in the
of a bitter battle. two former congressman for a closer look at the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> i thought it was a review of the movie lincoln. first from kanye to the black keys. take a look at the frontrunners after last night's grammy nominations. >> here's a live look outside. the latest weather and traffic from gwen and julie coming up next. it's 7:25. we'll be right back . .  [ singing christmas carols in background ] aunt sally's singing again. it's a tradition, honey. [ singing christmas carols ] mmmm. [ female announcer ] make new traditions with pillsbury grands! cinnamon rolls. that's been wrapped in a flaky crust stuffed with a gooey center toasted up all golden brown then given a delicious design? a toaster strudel. pillsbury toaster strudel. so delicious...so fun. >>> the nominations for the 2013 grammy awards are in. 6 different artists are tied with 6 nominations. kanye west, jay z, frank ocean, dan of the black keys by himself. mumford and sons and the pop band fun. others include call me maybe which is up for song of the year. >> the music
of sandy. they feel the unemployment rate will remain at 7.9%. they're also concerned that the fiscal cliff is keeping jobs from hiring. vice president joe biden will have lunch with a group of middle class americans. their taxes could sky rocket if congress and president obama don't reach an agreement on a budget by the end of the year. the white house has highlighted several middle class families' struggles in making the case for a deal. >>> in syria tensioned at a boiling point between rebels and the government. syrian rebels have declared damascus international airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. this comes as reports of the government preparing to use chemical weapons on the civilians there. since march of 2011, 40,000 people have been killed in the country's civil war. >>> a u.s. capitol police officer is in the hospital this morning after being hit by a car. this happened around 8:30 last night around massachusetts avenue in northeast washington. we're told the officer was hit during a traffic stop. her condition has not been released. so far
to go over the fiscal cliff. host: here is the story from the "new york times" today. we are talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations and whether compromise or sticking to principles should be what members of congress and the president should do here. a couple of weets this morning. when leaders say -- when people say leaders should stick to their principles, they mean leaders should stick to my principles. a lot of columns this morning talking about this issue, the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. here is "the washington post." we are taking your thoughts on the issue. but gutted the independent line. welcome to the "washington journal." caller: i agree also with a caller on the democrat line. i agree with what he was referring to -- c-span changing a with bias. the issues, they did not talk about it. the ones who are behind it are the political parties. the industrial military complex host: if the country does off of the fiscal cliff, who do you think it's more of the blame on this? it is the president of the united states or congress? caller: the people are being brainwashed
's. with talks of congress limiting the charitable tax deduction as part of the fiscal cliff negotiation will this year be any different? we have the head of charity navigator with me now. ken, we were talking during the break, there has been, you've seen increasing contributions to chaties this year because of that fiscal cliff. what do you see? >> we've seen some larger charities have seen as much as 7 or 8% increase in donations whereas some of the smaller charities they're still struggling and donations are somewhat level from last year. gerri: you know, people have this on the front of mind. this is traditional time of year you make your contributions and this year more than ever i think people are thinking their dollar will go further because of the possible changes in taxes. what is the one thing you would tell folks this year about chartable giving? what do they need to think about or remember this year? >> they need to remember that even now more than every charities really need their help. there is more of a demand because of unemployment, because of other challenges out there,
to the estimated $19.6 billion spent on hurricane katrina. >> 28 days until the fiscal cliff that will kick in if congress does not act. president obama and republicans seem to be playing a game of political chicken right now. the president's proposal as 1.6 trillion in hired taxers over the next couple of years. he proposes a tax cuts and stimulating spending to stimulate the economy. the two sides may try to come together. waiting for a chance to dry out here. a lot of clouds and traffic. 50 degrees in san francisco and a high in the upper 50s. >> watching flood levels this morning on bay area rivers as many are staying in their banks. we did have some flooding. the napa river reached flood stage yesterday afternoon. mayor to clean up in lafayette with the sinkhole and excavator is on this and not picking up debris. >> we get a dry day today but not for a long >> we should expect them rally later on tomorrow in the evening hours. it will pick up in intensity wednesday morning. tomorrow will be a -- today will be a dry day in the bay area. a cold start to the morning and low '40's for napa
:44. the back and forth continues in washington between congress and the white house over the so-called fiscal cliff. this morning president obama will host some of nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on top 2% of income earners. republicans countered with plan it would raise 800 billion dollars in revenue but doesn't call for raising tax rates on the wealthy the proposal was quickly rejected by the white house. >>> if you plan to fly anywhere for the holiday, book your flight right away. >> here's jane king with the bloomberg business report. >>> good morning. if you are thinking of flying over the holidays and don't have a ticket yes, book fast. airfares are up 4% compared to last year now that advanced purchase window can keep costs down if you buy 21 days in advance. if you are looking to save, christmas day airfares are cheaper along with december 27th and 31st, 17th and 18, may be good. congress gearing up to overall haul student loan debt collection wisconsin representative expected to introduce a measure thi
th congress until a credible solution to the fiscal cliff has been found. i thank the gentleman and yield back. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for his comments. i thank him for the early notice on next friday. mr. speaker, the house is still not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. mr. hoyer: i thank the speaker. first, mr. leader, if i could, we have the ending next thursday, so -- i want to clarify pour members so that they know. we will not be in session next friday. is that accurate? mr. cantor: mr. speaker, i'd say to the gentleman, that is correct. mr. hoyer: thank you for that information. i also want to congratulate the gentleman for providing for the week of the 17th. i know none of us want to do that but i appreciate the majority's focus on the business that has not been done. i also appreciate the gentleman's focus on the fiscal cliff and indicating that we need to resolve that prior to leaving the 112th congress. i think those are both positive announcements. i applaud him for that. on the fiscal cliff, we discussed this all the time but
. the fiscal cliff, the result of sequestration and agreements between the two parties, capitol hill and the white house. why would they not have thought out a position here? >> you know, one of the things that puzzles me about this is, even today the debate that the republicans are engaged in is really a debate with themselves. the media talks about the tax increases. that is almost all the talk about. and the only thing that makes sense to the republicans is to try to get some serious control over the entitlements. that is why they're in this game. and yet you hear very little from the republicans. you would think that the speaker would get out and say, look, we are ready to talk about -- we are ready to talk about new revenue, but i am not going to even get into that issue until the president moves his party. we know what the problem is. the democrats don't want to talk an entitlement reductions in all. the republicans don't want to talk about taxes. but the real issues facing this country, controlling spending, not raising taxes. lou: not according to nancy pelosi. i don't know i
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the fiscal cliff and america's debt are pushing some seen here to renounce the pledge. i've been highlighting members of congress who have recently said they're getting over grover. one, tom cole, says he is not bound anymore. representative cole, you wrote allowing taxes to rise for the top bracket may seem acceptable by comparison, but this path would be enormously damaging for the economy. which meant you weren't going to do it. now, you've been urging your fellow congressmen to at least extend the bush era tax cuts to those making less than $250,000 and then do battle over tax cuts for the wealthy later. what has changed your mind? >> frankly, nothing, and you've mischaracterized my position. i'm not for raising tax rates on anybody. it's going to slow down, hurt rates. that's my position. not just because i signed a pledge, because that's what i believe. what i have said is we agree with the president that taxes on 98% of the american people shouldn't go up. that's his position. that's our position. why not just take that off the table right now? it's 80% of the bush tax cut. we could ma
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to accept a deal in fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house is pulling out all stops and cranking up the social media campaign. president obama has been encouraging supporters to tweet with the #my2k, explaining what a $2,000 tax increase would mean for them and their families. the white house reports the hash tag has appeared in over 275,000 tweets with twitter seeing more than 18,000 tweets per hour add its peak. the road show coupled with the social media campaign is unprecede unprecedented. this is the kind of effort that helped president obama win a second term. now we'll see if his grassroots army can convince republicans to do what's right by the american people. i'm joined tonight by democratic strategist donna gentile-o'donnell and msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor, michael eric dyson. great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> i just want to go right to this poll. this quinnipiac poll was released today, and it shows the majority of the american people want tax rates to go up for the top 2%. donna, what about this? i mean, i don't think we
been so much hysteria over this fiscal cliff that i'm not sure it's warranted. >> that's exactly right. and also the ryan budget you know, their doctrine -- and it really is doctrining. lower taxes for the wealthy, and that will trickle down. untrue. number 2 increase spending in the pentagon way beyond what the pentagon wants and that will make us three. and that cut back on things like education and scientific research and somehow we'll have a stronger future. none of those things make any sense. at the core of the ryan approach, and he is representative of the dominant republican point of view now, is that you are on your own. it is an ayn rand kind of deal. if you are well off and can afford private school and you can give in a gated community, that's the way it ought to be and all of us ought to strive for that, but the fact is when this country has done well, we have had policies that have given the middle class an opportunity to succeed, and it takes a public/private partnership. >> stephanie: yep. representative, how do you see this playing out and h
. no progress on the fiscal cliff and no plans to even talk about it. when will the white house and congress get serious about making a deal? tracy: on december 31st. dennis: the president is taking to twitter. we'll the latest all hour. tracy: fears of higher taxes caused tax-free muni bonds to popularity but is it too late to find any bargains? jack hough says no. he tells us where the deals are. dennis: the looming fiscal cliff doesn't seem to stop americans from buying new cars. edmunds analyst jessica caldwell breaks down a surprising strong month for automakers but will it last? tracy: time to check stocks as we do every 15 minutes. we head down to the lauren simonetti on the floor of the new york stock exchange. they are slipping but just off the lows of the day. >> off the lows of the day. but the dow and s&p 500 giving up about a third of a percent each right now. the nasdaq is down three points. off the lows. the low for the dow this session is 12,969. we're a little above it but seems like the market wants to end the day in the red. we got conflicting data. construction spending was f
's up to two men to try to keep america from going over the fiscal cliff. 25 days and counting from the massive tax hikes and spending cuts. congress breaking in a week for the holiday. so john boehner trying to simplify things. he's asking top democrats and republica republicans to step aside so he can negotiate with the president one-on-one. it seems to be a request that everyone was able to live with. brianna keilar is live for us at the white house. if this is the case that everybody has been cleared out of the room, does that surprise you? it seems to make sense to me. >> reporter: it's not surprising at all. this is what observers of this process thought would happen all along. ultimately this was a process that would come down to president obama and house speaker john boehner brokering a deal. very much the way you saw they attempted to do during the debt ceiling debacle last year. it simplifies the problem of less cooks in the kitchen. then they will have to sell it. president obama would have to bring in democrats. john boehner would have to bring in his republicans and mak
, the president is hitting the road talking to families like the santanas in falls church about the fiscal cliff. the santanas, a family living with older parents say they stand to see their taxes go up by $4,000 if congress does not act now. the cliff would essentially mean the expiration of the bush era tax cuts. and that includes benefits to the middle class. everyone here on the hill agrees those families should be spared, but the president wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. republicans oppose the hike saying it would further hurt our economy. in the meantime, the president is also playing hardball on the debt ceiling. obama wants the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling to be lifted allowing for more government money to pay off medicare and tax refunds. he says without a resolution to the debt ceiling, there is no deal. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small bu
if we go over the cliff, it really is ... we still have a month or two for congress to fix things. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will be bad. it will be really bad for the market. ultimately, it will make its way out. we are not solving this cliff before the end of the year. we have come to gather. we have a framework. we are here and they are there, but we will meet somewhere in the middle. i think it will be bad for the market if they work behind the curve. adam: when do they jump in if we go over the cliff? >> waited out. you will know. the first three days, at that point, start looking at getting into positions. our economy is doing better. things are pointing to growth. hopefully washington will not screw this up. if you look at these solid companies that are out there right now, those are the ones that you buy. adam: thank you very much. have a great day. melissa: we will show you whatt3 the 401(k) for ibm means for the company. adam: shifting to a right to work state. michigan's organized labor. take a look at how the dollar is faring today. ♪ >> @23 past the hour
going on holiday and 25 days from plunging off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the "new york post" photographer who took the picture of the man in the subway tracks before he was hit sits down to tell his side of the story. we'll hear from him this hour on cnn. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. breaking new's massive earthquake in japan. it happened off the coast of japan, about 300 miles northeast of tokyo you can see on the tower cam that we are going to buildings swayed for several minutes there. let's go to alex zolbert live in tokyo what can you tell us? >> this happened friday evening b an hour and a half ago. an unnerving scene. a 7.3 magnitude earthquake. as we understand it, this came along the same fault line that triggered that massive tsunami in march of 2011. we have been watching all the local stations, trying to gather all the information we can. here's what we know at this point in terms of a tsunami. we have seen several small waves come in, about four waves. the biggest one bein
session and they want the focus to be on the fiscal cliff. some conservatives did have issues regarding abortion and what it meant for the rights of the disabled while they were in the womb. there were a number of concerns. when i saw bob dole get wheeled in by his wife, former senator elizabeth dole, my heart melted. it meant a lot to people like john mccain, but that does not mean that some of these issues that some of these republicans had were not credible and are not -- we should just say, okay. there's a lot of treaties that have really pretty sounding name but the devil is in the detail. and i think that's what some of them felt when it came to this treaty. >> ana navaro and maria -- go ahead, maria, quickly. >> i hope ana is right and if republicans really want to do this right they will have another chance in the next congress and this is something where americans really need to step up. what happened yesterday was gop fear of the tea party. every single senator that voted against it was most likely up in 2014 except for one. >> okay. ana navaro, maria cardona, thank you so muc
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year than anytime since the recession began. how much is that is due to the looming fiscal cliff. joining me now is congresswoman judy, chair of the congress gregsal asian pacific caucus. it's great to have you here. we have been talking about the larger effects of this and the taxation issue and what will happen to the wealthiest of americans. how will going over the fiscal cliff affect small businesses? i believe that being able to have a fairer tax rate will benefit small businesses because small businesses will be able to make sure that they are paying a fairer tax rate as what happened in the clinton tax years when we had an economic boom. >> congresswoman, we hear all the time certainly from the republicans arguments against president obama's plan is the $250,000 tax hike threshold could hurt small businesses. we hear that from all people who come on to talk about why they are opposed to it from the right wing that small business owners are going to be the ones hurt by this, the job creators. when we talk about them filing taxes as individuals and the real ones out there, w
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because of the fiscal cliff situation. >>> and some electronic device bans could be lifted. in a letter to the faa, the agency called for greater use of portable devices on planes. i thought they affected navigation systems. but maybe that's not true. >>> and finally, a fish tale with a picture to prove it. a fisherman caught what is believed to be the biggest yellow fin tuna ever. landed on rod and reel, that is. 459 pounds. he fought the fish for two hours. the previous record, dan harris was reminded me, was 427 pounds this year. >> i take this very seriously, ron. >> a walking encyclopedia. >> he likes his sushi. >>> time for the weather and ginger zee. >> good morning, everybody. i want to start in the pacific northwest, where they've been waiting for snow at the ski resorts. and snowboarders happy, too. snoqualmie pass, they got it. they got well over six inches in a lot of spot. that same storm that drops that snow is moving through the northern plains. that's what will be responsible for the snow, not only in the northern plains and parts of the dakotas, but also from minnesota
-called fiscal cliff. in addition, several key tax benefits are scheduled to expire at the end of the year that will have a direct impact on the pocketbooks of many americans. take a couple with one child living in new york earning $100,000. their tax rate jumps from 25% to 28%. they could be hit by the alternative minimum tax. the child tax credit drops from $1,000 to $500, and payroll taxes could be $2,000 more next year. for a single 25-year-old in michigan who works for time earning $30,000 a year and going to school part time, his tax rate would stay the same at 15%, but he would lose the american education tax credit and have to pay more than $600 in payroll taxes. and even though it's weeks before the changes would take effect, the impact is already being felt because of uncertainty. 401(k) plans are taking a hit. several companies have put a freeze on hiring. and the next thing to watch for, the retail sector which makes most of its money in the final weeks of the year. >> i'm shortening down the list a lot. just doing the essentials, taking care of the priorities first, and then t
% of americans would blame republicans in congress, not the president, if we went over the fiscal cliff. republicans have a problem there as terms of messaging. >> nay understand the situation, again, they said we're prepared to get more revenue from the rich, they made a tremendous move. they got no response from the white house, and essentially today, a courtesy call. they understand that the american people have asked for this, but they also know the american people have asked for some leadership. they asked for compromise, there is more to be done as well. >> they love a deadline, they're willing to give up their christmas vacation. as you know, the stakes for so many americans are enormous. right now, they have to get this done one way or the other. >> it will be right up to the end. >> as it usually is. >> we'll have new year's eve here in the situation room? >> i'll bring the champagne. >>> eye opening new poll numbers coming in about hillary clinton's presidential chances in 2016 if she decides to run. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life
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and if it is done, it it is a bad d. >>guest: i am worried. the so-called fiscal cliff was put in law because it was stuff that would be so unacceptable congress would never let it happen, enormous tax increases, grotesque cuts in spending but here we, it is in the law. congress does nothing which congress is good at doing and go over the cliff and some want to see that happen because then the crisis will generate the kind of bipartisan agreement we need but that is irresponsible. >>neil: it is looking more likely. then who picks up the pieces? >>guest: the country suffers. i don't think anyone gains politically. you know that almost everyone here in both parties will tell you if you talk to them privately, this ends with entitlement reform. not cutting programs like medicare but slowing down the growth in the programs because they are the big drivers of the deficit and raising more out of the revenue, out of the tax system. whether you call iterates or reform over whatever you call it, and each those touches the third rail of the parties, we have to get together and say, basically, we have t
than congress. >>> adding his tuppence, he says they'll have to get used to it and the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons. >> we have structural influences that speak to the deleveraging, speak to aging demographics of the boomers, that speak to globalization and technology, all of which have been labor and job unfriendly. >> joining us with his views, the senior european economist at jeffries international. before we talk about europe, i'm just wondering if bill gross is right there, what kind of impact is that going to have for everybody else? >> well, in terms of the fiscal cliff, it is having an impact on the u.s. and driving growth there. the impact on europe is probably quite limited for the time being. most certainly europe has its own problems to worry about. we're still kind of waiting for this to be resolved. i think for the time being the problems are separate. but ultimately, the u.s. needs to be a droeiver of growth for e economy. the u.s. in 2013 is going to be a very difficult year. >> china markets doing well, as sixuan was saying on chinese leadership, pledging to d
. >> so if these tax extenders have to be dealt with by the end of the year and in the fiscal cliff negotiation, what are the options for congress right now on december -- what is it the sixth today? >> these are kind of an afterthought at this point because often, as i said, all these are extended for your or two at a time. they talk about trying to make the list shorter, but if they have to, december 29th, they need to pass something, all they have to do is pass everything for a year and it won't costs so much. they get to this after figuring out the bigger question. >> host: they can do in one bill? text extenders and list the different -- >> guest: you will go in the big fiscal compromise and you won't your a lot about unless someone is like wait a second, they passed a nascar tax break? that is a deduction and they probably will because tax extenders' were in the financial bailout. they usually get stuck in the big bill. >> host: right now what is the status of the so-called tax extenders? >> guest: the financing--senate finance committee passed a bill in august. the house has
to you. >> thank you. >>> another big story, avoiding the fiscal cliff. president obama visited a middle class family in fairfax county to pitch his fiscal plan. that is because the average family will see taxes increase $2200 if congress doesn't take action by the end of the year. the president touted the benefits of extending tax breaks on those making $250,000 a year or less while continuing to push for rate increases on wealthier americans. >>> three, two, one! >> very busy for the president. he also put aside the partisan fight over that fiscal cliff for a time last night. joining the rest of the first family in lighting the national christmas tree on the ellipse. this marked the 90th year for the tree lighting ceremony. so pretty to watch and see that. >> you got to at least go down, drive by or something at some point. >> it is fun. >>> u.s. military ships on the move as north korea gets set to launch a rocket. we've got details next. >>> one police department is calling it one of the worst cases of child abuse they have ever investigated. details of an arrest at a day care center
very much for helping us out. >>> now folks, we switch gears back. we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long weekend. that's kind of insane. eamon javers joins us. >> reporter: the president began his day this morning before an audience of business leaders and he continued his campaign of persuasion amongst some of the nation's top ceos. >> i am passionately rooting for your success. because if the companies in this room are doing well, then small businesses and medium sized businesses up and down the chain are doing well. if companies in this room are doing well, then folks get jobs, consumers get confidence, and we're going to be able to compete around the world. >> and then larry, later in the afternoon, our steve leishman sat down with treasury secretary tim geithner. geithner in that interview late in the afternoon made it clear that this is brinksmanship of the highest order. >> i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. those making more
being asked. we are willing to go over the fiscal cliff. why? to square the members to call their members of congress. if you talk to business people and people in the banking industry they are not concerned about the fiscal cliff and i am not sure why. maybe they feel it is going to get done. this is very, very interesting. >> steve: i think there are people who are optmistic that something can happen in the long run. >> brian: we get past this hurdle and we might get on a roll. >> steve: john boehner said the republicans point of view. we don't have to raise rates on the top people. we can tighten things up and close the loop holes and deduction. actually that the president of the united states's point of view back last year . now he said it is all about tax rates. this is the president in a flash back. >> what we said give us 1.2 trillion in additional revenues which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be questioned by eliminating loop holes and deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates. >> steve: he was for
to deal with the fiscal cliff, and our long term deficit challenges. we have yet to see even an acknowledgement of republican leaders of the fact that there is no deal that does not include rates going up on top earners. as the president said in the interview you cited and said before, he doesn't hold the position because it's inherently good orments to punish wealthy americans, but holds it because it's mathematically sound. it's an absolute fact there's no way to achieve balance in a broad deficit reduction package, a balance that requires significant revenues without rates going up on top earners. you cannot achieve it through promised closing of loopholes or capping of deductions, and you certainly can't achieve it through the kind of vague proposal that we see from republicans which contains no specificity whatsoever, not a single deduction named or loophole identified to be close so rates have to go up. the president believes that, and it's part of the proposal that his team put forward to congress that we need to have a frame work here that envisions dealing with the f
between congress and the white house. 25 days before the u.s. is set to go over the fiscal cliff and still no deal. >> the president wants more revenue and fewer spending cuts then if we fell off the fiscal cliff. >> pulling the rug out from under these families would delay the recovery. how do we get the economy moving? weekly unemployment claims spike. governor chris christie pressed president obama for additional aid. >> i am going home, guys. >> hiring plans plans last month. matching a record low from november of 2008. planned layoffs rose 20% to their highest levels in six months. consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were affected one way or the other. businesses had to shut do
president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff to show that neither he nor democrats in congress are acting in good faith in these negotiations. with just a few weeks ago before a potentially entirely avoidable blow to the economy, the president proposed a plan the members of his own party will even vote for. he is not interested in a balanced agreement, not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. with the president is really in, as we learned just yesterday, is getting as much taxpayer money as he can, first by raising taxes on small businesses who he believes are making too much money, and then on everybody else. not so he can lower the debt or the deficit, but so he can spend to his heart's content. for months, the president has been saying that all he wanted to raise taxes on the top 2% so he can tackle the debt and the deficit. however, yesterday, he finally revealed that that is not really is true intent. by demanding the power to raise the debt limit whenever he wants, by as much as he wants, he showed what he i
of congress plus it puts the fiscal cliff and place right now and you lay it out i'm sorry, count me out. stacte want to take the first question? >> you raise a good point. this is where people's eyes glaze over. they can say whatever you want them to say. but the notion, i do think that there's been to the relationship between revenues and the titles and if we want to go bigger the better we need to push all of those, the smaller unit and the less you do on the other side, but there are some who say the idea of the american public is going to buy into this notion okay we are going to look devotees taxes go up so everything can be returned in a tax cut, and we go through this magical power. they are going to think 90% of the approval. so, you're going to have a general consensus. you do this year to get 500 of that in the interest savings alone. this should not be as challenging as it is. >> the other thing i would disagree about is the fact and i have been a huge jet kit and continue to be a huge advocate of tax reform debate and it's a critically important piece and i do think the noti
a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the nation's governors today. he said behind closed doors that there is a lot at stake not just for the national economy but state by state. some of their budgets could take a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the bottom line is the president and speaker boehner have not spoken now in several days. so there is reall
of the congress are getting out of town. tracie potts has more on the stalling fiscal cliff talks. >> reporter: lawmakers getting out of washington today while they can. >> eric cantor, house republicans talk about forcing members to be in town through the christmas holiday if a deal is not done before then. >> leave us alone! >> reporter: these are some of the frustrated constituents they will face on what can happen if social security jobs are cut. >> it's going to be backlogged and disability is going to skyrocket. processing time is going to skyrocket. lines out the door in our offices. >> reporter: they get advice when economists testify. plus, more fallout from what the treasury secretary tells cnbc could happen if there's no deal. >> administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. >> reporter: there's one small sign of progress. a republican source says president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> the hold upright now is that speaker boehner took a position, i think th
year 2012 and the amt fix is now the sleeping giant in the fiscal cliff budget negotiations that as of this hour are still focused entirely on income tax rates. there is much more that congress has to solve than income tax rates including the amt, medicare spending, medicaid, and possibly social security. joining me to talk about the things that congress is not yet talking about but will soon be talking about, joeyç reed and chris hayes. chris, the amt has a deadline to it that is sharper than anything else in here, because these 2012 tax returns going to have to be calculated with either this new version of the amt or the fixed version, and that is the difference between it affects -- it adds tens of millions of people getting bitten by this thing. i know that the insiders are more worried about that actually getting fixed than the cliff at this point. >> yeah. when i started covering capitol hill in washington, there were two things that people talked about, which was the amt patch and the dock fix. everyone is like where are we on the amt fix. they adjust the payments a
excess thoughts. okay. all right. the president on this whole fiscal cliff. >> obama: i don't think it is acceptable for you for a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. >> stephanie: uh, yeah! let's go to kathy in mobile, alabama. >> mobile. >> caller: actually, it is mobile. i know you're not from the south. something i've heard recently which is totally stupid was someone made the comment that normally we only work 25 years and then we live only 40 years after that. a. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: which is crazy. if you started at 18, you reach retirement at 43 or even if you start working at 35. >> stephanie: this is something grover norquist said yesterday. i'm like who only works 25 years? math is -- that's what the president said. republicans have to stop using political math to say how much they're willing to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2% and specify the spending cuts. they're
about the fiscal cliff. but thinking -- you know that the new congress that is coming in has less of the crazy tea baggers than the ones that we're dealing with now. as my understanding that congress can write legislation that's retro active to the first of the year. it may not be such a bad thing going over it afterall. >> stephanie: gayle, i swear to god i understand people -- even the white house saying that would not be preferrable to do that and that markets may react. i'm starting to agree with you. the more i see mcconnell and boehner's comments and how unseriously they're treating this, the lack of specificity of what their plan is, that's what i think. go over the bunny hill or whatever the hell it is. whatever this thing is. the slopy thing. >> the ramp. the hump. >> stephanie: bush tax cuts are gone for the rich. they're gone. they're done. you fix it retroactively with a new congress. it is not like -- it really is like a cliff. maybe a couple of weeks, you go back and retroactively fix it. it is not
of the screen. we have lots more in the show. twenty-six days until we fall off the fiscal cliff. is that what democrats want us to do? pictures seem so. we go live to capitol hill in 10 minutes. while congress talked about wanting to cut excess spending, the numbers may tell a different story. i will break it down coming up next. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in econocs, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise ur rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. gerri: where would we be without senator tom coburn? without the oklahoma taxpayer dollars? this fellow brought us this image. your member this? the shrimp on on the treadmill. does anyone have? @%e national science foundation studying the effects on disease. they decided to do this, and they spend 500,000 taxpayer dollars doing this study. if you can get scientists to waste money, the senator is back with another study. this time uncove
them as we near the fiscal cliff. twitter blogs, e-mail blasts, just yesterday the president invited his backer to a twitter town hall and now he's urging them to post their stories as well as their demands to congress on social media. let's bring in eric, associate publisher of social media magazine. >> it's good to be here. thank you for having me. >> the white house has said they've already gotten 200,000 responses to my2k and the reason they say that if the tax cuts expire. if you search the feed, did you find as almost as many counter comments as supportive comments. so it begs the question, is twitter a way to kind of unite an army of supporters? >> absolutely. technology is changing the art of persuasion. what everybody -- look at history. look at history just a few weeks ago. this guy won the white house with technology. we talked about it here before. he used technology to get re-elected. he used it to get in the first time. the only difference that he's doing this time that he didn't do the first time is he is making sure he doesn't tone down the machine. now for the very f
obama through their golf game on the fiscal cliff? >> for reasons that would be apparent to anybody who's seen me sitting at golf club i was not there and therefore do not know. [inaudible] >> and a president obama enjoyed the session, but beyond that i don't have anything else for you. [inaudible] >> can you give us more detail about who will be here, how many end the dialog does not already part of the conversation? >> the president looks forward to the meeting. i think we will have details on that later this evening. i don't have a list for you. >> in concept, talk about what experience governors have, what is hoping to hear every day. >> governors have a lot at stake in this process. they've been interesting seeing washington get its fiscal house in order. they see action to ensure that the economy continues to grow. governors broadly speaking having an interest in washington making wise investments and rebuilding our infrastructure. they obviously have a stake in our health care entitlement programs including of course medicaid. and what governors house in common with the president
to congress. january 1, 2013, new tax rates and rolls kick in. january 2, 2013, $110 billion in fiscal cliff spending cuts due to begin. march 27, 2013, funding of the federal government expires. august 1, 2013, white house's suggested deadline for resolving major changes to the tax code and entitlements. ron has this to say about the fiscal cliff -- let's hear from ray in philadelphia, a republican caller. caller: good morning. i think the republicans have to get out a better message. if we realize we ran out of money for all the programs we are having, what is going to happen in another 10 years? what happens is, these people earning more than $250,000, they worked from the age of 18 to move up the ladder and finally reached success. the pint the republicans have to make is it is time to lower taxes on middle-class families. it has reached a pinnacle. it is time to may be lower taxes on the middle-class. we have to cut spending because the economy is in such bad positicondition. democrats keep pointing out that 98% of businesses are less than $250,000. 98% of people working in those busine
we're facing a fiscal cliff or anything. >> you're right, susan. it's not a fiscal cliff but a slope. it's a gradual one. >> stooe, it's not right on to talk about people when they're right there. have some manners. do it behind their back. really, it's got for morale. there's a study and everything. >> if you can't say something nice to something, come on over here and tell it to me. no worries, you're among friends here. it's "the cycle." >>> two big developments on the economic front. first the unemployment numbers for november came out and they were way better than expected. we added a net gain of 146,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7%, the lowest in four years. to steal a little from krystal, it appears it's obama and boehner one on one. there's no i in team but there's one in win, which is why the fiscal slope negotiations are getting serious. we haven't heard yet from the president but have heard from speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. the white house has wasted another week. it's time for the president, if
the responsible thing and that the sequestration, the fiscal cliff the responsible thin wouldn't happen but if we don't get from the american people, if they don't call their congress person, whether they are republican or democrat and tell us to move off the dime and get the job done, we call --. >>eric: what happens in what happens? i tell you what happens. all you guys on washington pat each other on the back and say we didn't go off the fiscal cliff and the debt goes from $16 trillion to $20 trillion a couple years down the road to $25 trillion. nothing changes in washington, dc. you tax. you still spend. maybe it is time to take the medicine congressman and go over the fiscal cliff and fix the problem. >>guest: there is no fiscal cliff. there is a fiscal slope. the earth doesn't stop spinning, the sun will come up, the moon will come up and we will have to do things in john. taxes will go up and the democratic party and hopefully some responsible republicans will vote to make certain that we remove this tax cut that would take place. >>eric: no talk about responsible democrats to stop spendi
federal spending cuts unless congress and the president act so-called fiscal cliff. on the senate floor today, top senate democrat, here he was, harry reid, said the republican counteroffer unveiled yesterday is a serious proposal. reid called the offer a nonstarter. his word. but a serious proposal nonetheless. in an interview just today with bloomberg tv, president obama did not reject the gop offer outright. officials have called it a step backward, not worthy of a counteroffer. but, you know, bottom line here, you have two sides they appear to be pretty far apart with no new negotiations happening at least not to our knowledge. so, with me now from capitol hill is representative peter wel welch. democrat from vermont. good to see you. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> so let me just pose this one to you. you just heard harry reid, would you agree with harry reid the plan offered yesterday by that house speaker is, quote unquote, a serious plan? >> well, you know, i don't know the details of it. it is $800 billion supposedly in revenues and it is a lot of medicare cuts but not s
, at least our former members of congress here. do they cut a deal, congressmen? to avoid the fiscal cliff before we actually get there? >> i believe so. >> senator? >> yes, as long as you realize that the treasury secretary sets withholding taxes, he doesn't have to raise it even if the taxes go up and the sequester doesn't have to happen month by month. you can do the sequester in the last month of 12 months if you want. so it gives the congress anotherality or nine -- probably four or five month the next year before they have to reach a deal. >> you're thinking they could kick the can down the road but who thinks the market's not going to let them do that? they'll be punished. >> they'll be hugely punished. >> sooner rather than later? >> immediately. >> we haven't seen it so far. >> >> the herd will turn. erskine's got a very famous line that says, we got away with it last time because we had the best-looking horse in the glue factory or whatever he says. we're not going to get it passed this time. >> we're not going to get it passed. no. >> the president doesn't want a deal. >> we wil
in congress are willing to go over the fiscal cliff in order to get those tax hikes. rather than negotiate in good faith, they're willing to try to spend their time trying to convince the american people that it's just someone else's fault. going over the fiscal cliff will mean another recession, and this one is squarely on the shoulders of president obama. it will mean unemployment spiking back up over 9%. it will also mean a whole host tax increases, even beyond the higher tax rates that washington democrats want so badly. americans are also facing big increases in the death tax and the alternative minimum tax, also known as the a.m.t. both of these taxes will go up january 1 unless democrats work with republicans and take action to stop the increases that are already scheduled to occur. now, there's bipartisan agreement that these taxes should not be raised. there is bipartisan agreement that these taxes will do great damage to middle-class families, to family businesses, and to family farms. any effort to stop these harmful tax increases is being held up by the president's insistence o
congress and the president are behaving when it comes to the fiscal cliff. let me read some of these numbers for you. should obama compromise to get things done. 72% say yes. 22% say no. should the gop compromise to get things done. and take a look. 72% say yes. my question for you, wolf, i'm not sure you'll have the answer but perhaps you'll have guidance. for those democrats who say the president has a mandate because voters voted him into office while he campaigned to tax the wealthiest 2%, i wonder how those same people who responded in this poll would respond if they had to choose between what they voted for or the compromise they would want to see. do you have a feeling there? >> bottom line from the poll is that overwhelming majority of the american people want both sides to compromise. they don't want to go over the fiscal cliff. they don't necessarily think the difference is separating these two sides are unbridgeable or unrealistic. they can work out a deal. they have to be adults and be serious and make concessions to the other side and you won't get 100% of what
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